Growers Torn On Court’s Illegal Immigration Ruling

Greenhouse floriculture is torn over the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that upheld an Arizona law imposing sanctions against businesses that hire illegal immigrants.

In a GreenhouseGrower.com poll taken over the last week, 42 percent of those polled say they “absolutely agree” with the Supreme Court’s decision. Another 29.5 percent say they “absolutely do not” agree with the ruling, with 10.2 percent indicating they “somewhat agree,” 12.5 percent indicating they “don’t really agree” and 5.8 percent indicating they aren’t sure what to think.

As one anonymous reader wrote on GreenhouseGrower.com: “This law does not cover the main issue of illegal immigration. This law is just a patch to the whole system. The courts and legislatures do not know how to solve the problem and are using the E-verify to save face.”

Another reader shared a similar assessment: “I agree the illegal alien situation needs to be addressed. However, the answer is not to penalize the landscape, nurseries and garden centers, but to give these aliens some sort of legal-working status. The groups that push this issue obviously don’t realize there are very few American-born citizens that will do these jobs. Plus, the workers who are American citizens will be on unemployment when the businesses are forced to close.”

For more feedback from GreenhouseGrower.com readers, check out our original . Readers can also weigh in by taking last week’s poll and sharing their perspective on the ruling with Greenhouse Grower Editor Delilah Onofrey and Managing Editor Kevin Yanik.

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10 comments on “Growers Torn On Court’s Illegal Immigration Ruling

  1. This is not that completed, workers go to the us consulate with a invitation to work from employer, they apply for work visa , with annual renewal base on performance. Committee a crime send them back, good employee and a citizen gets a renewal visa for another year. They pay taxes and homeland security knows exactly where they live and work.

  2. We have had some Wonderful Talented Devoted People work for us before all the Illegal Alien Situation came up. Everyone in this buisness knows how hard it is to get people to stay and work hard. Alot walk out the first day. Will not work for the kind of money that is payed in this Career Choice. We need to have a Legal Working Status . Keep the others Drug runners out. They won,t work anyway.

  3. I’m so tired of nearly every Republican politician (many Democrats too), blaming all the problems of this country on the backs of those laboring in our greenhouses and fields. I can’t remember having any college kid or for that matter high school dropout or graduate EVER apply for a job doing this type of work! We depend on these hardworking folks to keep produce cheap and plentiful. If they’ve broken no laws give them a path to citizenship……that’s all any of our ancestors came to this nation to achieve. It’s time to face reality and get off the scapegoat bandwagon!

  4. Bad,Bad,Bad, and worse. Hiring illegals only promotes a sick culture that does not value laws, morals etc. I have been in the industry for over 35 years and have seen how it erodes values. We need a workable system of immigration, but how can we have one with the dingbats in D.C.that are clueless. If they(the dingbats) had to run a business they would be bankrupt, OH THEY ARE. Solution enforcable laws. Start enforcing and there will be fewer offenders both employers and immigrants.

  5. Why do illegals come here? For jobs and a better way of life. If our worthless politicians can’t fix the problem because they’re afraid to then maybe the industries that hire them will have to. Don’t hire illegals then force the government to put a program in place that allows people who want to work to get legal status, a year at a time, pay taxes and give them a road to permenant status. The flow of illegals will stop or at least slow down if there are no easily obtainable jobs. I can remember back in my younger days, I’m 61, the brocero, spelled wrong, program. It worked. People from other countries would come in, get a work permit, green card, register with an employer and go to work. The government knew where they were, the employees wouldn’t run when the border patrol drove up and there were plenty of jobs and workers to fill them. The system worked. Politicians can’t fix problems because they’re careers mean to much to them and their careers are dependant on getting re-elected. They’re afraid of pissing someone off.

  6. Your so tired of republicans??? That’s a good partisan line. It’s not about scapegoating it’s about enforcing the current laws, that were already in place. That’s the opinion of most americans, not just republicans.

  7. I think it is morally important to obey the laws that are in place even when I don’t agree with them. So who is opposed to having a reasonable process for foreigners to gain legal status to obtain a job in the US? To pass and uphold laws that make it illegal to hire an “illegal alien” at the same time as having laws that make is unreasonably difficult to gain legal status to work appears to be a covert method of preventing competition for jobs. I suppose it would not be very popular to come right out and say that is the reason for these laws. I wonder how many of the legislators and judges in place today would have been born in other parts of the world if we had these same policies 100 years ago. Most of the current citizens of this country are here because we or our ancestors had reasonable opportunity to gain legal citizenship. Why do we feel it is right to deny the same opportunities to others?

  8. Native born Americans will not do these jobs. In over thirty years, not one has ever applied for a job in my farm. I provide health insurance, a great working environment, pay overtime, follow all labor laws. Even with the current unemployment rates, there is no native born American citizens asking for a job here. Who is going to harvest our food, work in our factories, build our homes etc., if we don’t have immigrant workers who are more than willing to do these jobs that Americans won’t do?

  9. Shoot let’s all just quit our jobs and look forward to our Nanny Socialist State’s next handout. If American born citizens are entitled to handouts then why not? As our society becomes more reliant on Uncle Sam to take care of it’s citizens needs ( and go further into debt ) we can all sit back and ask ourselves why our Chinese Overlords (own the most U.S. debt of any county in the world ) are taking over the world one dollar store item at a time. This country use to be great because of the lack of government intervention, and hard work Americans put in. More government does not make a country great. It simply binds the whole ability of the nation to move forward. Now our nation’s citizens feel entitled to not have to work hard because there are others to do this work. Well take away those willing to work and what do we have? NOTHING that’s what we have. Let’s all sit back and enjoy the slow demise of what use to be a great nation. this country – why…..because we can!

  10. Let me just say that all businesses should be using E verify to check the legal status of their employees. That being the case it is also clear that the current system for acquiring work visas is inadequate. I guess a better way to put it is that it just takes too much work. The truth is we have hispanic people stopping by nearly everyday asking for work. There is no need to fill out forms to acquire the temporary help (employees with visas) we need. Why would an employer jump through hoops to get an employee when plenty just show up? By requiring E Verify and placing sanctions on those who hire illegals it will drive our industry to slog through the mess required to get the help we need. Furthermore, native born Americans will do the work required… they just won’t do it for minimum wage, and want to get unemployment during the time they aren’t needed. I personally grew up in an agricultural area where there wasn’t an abundant (over abundant) hispanic population. I worked as a landscaper, in a nursery, as a roofer, as well as detassled corn and I recall only having one hispanic coworker in all the crews I was a part of. The work was seasonal but I was young and it payed well compared to being a fry cook. If you don’t agree just look at the Dutch! Rather than overwhelm the system with underpaid, unskilled, temporary workers they improve efficiency by mechanizing processes where feasible and hiring young unskilled labor when absolutely necessary.

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